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Too Late For Love

Casidi — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:47:34 +0000

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Looks like the folks at Strong City are going on a word fast again.

[UPDATE 5/6/09]

Jan’s comment #10 below has been removed from the site.

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Esther: Woman On A Mission

Casidi — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:45:33 +0000

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I’m posting these comments here because I believe they might be removed if this starts a real conversation.
[update 4/29] The last post below was removed from the SC site.

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Esther’s Fast – Part II

Casidi — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:44:39 +0000

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Pearls Before Swine

Casidi — Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:33:30 +0000

The Strong City post with current comments can be viewed here.

The story on the Alibi with their user comments can be viewed here.

I posted a question to Bethabara on the alibi which, as of yet, she hasn’t answered:

In the transcript that Bethabara quoted, L.S. says that she didn’t see his nakedness because

L.S.: It was dark and there was no lights on.

If that is so, how did he know where he was placing his hand when he placed it on her sternum? If it was too dark to see his nakedness then it was too dark to see hers. How then could Wayne be “so careful” as to not touch her breast if he can’t see her parts due to darkness?

Wayne states in the trial transcripts:

Wayne Bent: Yes.

(Bent stands up)

In L.S.’s case, it was straight up and down like this. If I put my hand on the sternum of somebody clothed, I’m not always so careful where I put my hand. But in her case, I was being exceptionally careful, not to enter into any kind of sexuality with her.

I’m only bringing this up because the L.S.’s statement completely confused me. Either it was light enough to see clearly where parts were or it was too dark for him to be able to be “so careful”. Can you shed some light on this Bethabara?

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My Heart For Michael and the Land

Casidi — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:26:26 +0000

The Strong City post with current comments can be viewed here.

For a awhile the following comments were available:

From Diane:

Gabriel and Allasso,
I find both of your posts very interesting. You say you don’t judge others? I have seen many, many posts from the both of you on various websites that were not only judgemental but also condescending. In fact, Gabriel, I was offended by your remark in a post where you said “fallen humanity tends to be extremely dense when it comes to spiritual truths”. Just because I don’t follow YOUR God, I am dense? I am “fallen humanity”?? So I have to ask, who are you to judge??
I challenge you to a response to my post.

Then a reply from Gabriel:

Then I submitted a reply with the following (which was never posted):

I posted a comment awhile back to “A Line Drawn” in which I asked if those of us who don’t believe as you do could get posted as many of my comments never made it to the site. Gabriel responded that if I was truely seeking to understand my posts would be allowed. That is the reason for this comment. I am trying to understand some of the parts of your post.

You stated:
“What people don’t understand is how we live in our community, and that I would not question anyone else in our community either. I believe everything anyone tells me here. Why is this? Because everyone in Strong City always tells the truth, all of the time.”

Maybe there is something I don’t understand about your use of the term “truth” or perhaps I don’t understand the way your people speak, but in a heated post to Loraine from Hanifa titled “Open Letter To Lorraine Irwin” Hanifa stated:

“You imagine all manner of evil against us falsely. The Bible says “Blessed are ye” for this. You portray us/Esther’s choices as sick and despicable, but tell me, Lorraine, instead of training my children to heed the Voice of God that speaks to their heart, should I have rather taught them to parade themselves naked before the public eye in provocative and pornographic poses, prostituting themselves for the love of financial gain? or to use drugs and alcohol in order to “enjoy” life to the fullest? or to bring a baby into the world without the safety and protection of a God-given holy union in which to honor the child with stability?…”

Hanifa states “to bring a child into the world without the safety and protection of a God-given holy union in which to honor the child with stability”. Is that a lie/hypocrisy or am I misunderstanding her words? On the land, while Willow was still a child, Michael removed the unions and took her mother away from her father. From my observation of what you have written on your site, Willow’s mother was then married/consummated to Michael. Isn’t that exactly what Hanifa is referring to about the evilness of “the world”? To me, Hanifa’s words appear as a lie/hypocrisy that she/your community honors unions for the stability of the children. Please help me to understand.

Gabriel stated:
“As to posts of mine you have read in which you accuse me or Allasso of being judgmental, you may want to observe that your judgment of our being judgmental is, itself, a moral judgment on your part. I suspect that if you will observe, objectively (if possible) those posts you mention, that neither of us have made unfounded conclusions on anything other than the clear statements and claims of others. That is not judgment, but simply observation.”

Can you also do the same? You say “the world” condems you and hates you and rages against you, is this not the same as your comments to the rest of us? You accuse the rest of us not on your land and not believing as you do as perverted and ignorant and deluded. Isn’t that the exact same as what you accuse the world of doing to you? Can you, as you state, observe objectively that people that speak out are not making unfounded conclusions but simply observations? Why is it one way when you do it but the opposite when others who you do not agree with do the same? Is the only reason you say this because you know that you have the truth? Don’t you think the rest of us feel the same way? I hope this helps you to realize we aren’t all evil as you would think, just as you want us to think of you. I don’t believe we are so different in that respect. You do not understand me, just as I do not understand you, but at least I am trying. I’m trying to learn about you whereas you have already made your judgment and decided there is nothing left to learn about me. That is where I think you have gone wrong for maybe if you stopped doing the things say you hate that “we” do to you, you might help others to know your truth.

After my I submitted my comment and went back later to see if they had posted my comment I noticed that both Diane’s and Gabriel’s comments were removed.

Please leave any comments that you tried to submit to this Strong City post in the comments below and feel free to discuss. I will not be moderating the comments other than to remove totally random spam posts and things like that. I know that the majority of people interested in the Strong City saga are responsible posters.

Rejected Comments to strongcity.info

Too Late For Love

Esther: Woman On A Mission

Esther’s Fast – Part II

Pearls Before Swine

My Heart For Michael and the Land

The Close of Probation and the Rending of the Veil

A Brief History and Overview

Love Understands

When Satan Takes Over

The Tree of Mammon